Having not paid Council tax since last August 2009 some very interesting facts have emerged. This information has been backed up by others who have uncovered the same routine, in which Councils act completely unlawfully.
After you decide not to pay Council, tax you will receive a ‘Summons’ to the local magistrates Court.
This appears to be a Summons issued by the Court. It bears a royal seal and is “signed” by the Clerk to the Justices for the petty sessional area of xxxx. It states:
“Complaint has this day been made before the undersigned by the London Borough of xxxx. You being a person liable to pay the Council tax and from whom payment of that tax has been duly demanded have not paid the sum as due below.”
“You are therefore Summonsed to appear before the magistrates at xxxx on xxxx at xxxx
“If you do not appear, you may be proceeded against as if you had appeared and dealt with according to the law”.
The first paragraph states that,
“complaint has been made before the undersigned.”
This looked immediately suspicious as the “signature” for Clerk to the Justices seemed to be deliberately deceptive as it was indecipherable, and photocopied onto the document (Part of the signature on this particular Summons was cut off) The other big problem being there was no name printed under the ‘signature.’
Having phoned both the Court and the Council and neither being able to tell me who signed the Summons I put in a freedom of information request to the Councils head of Governance and Law as to who was the acting Clerk to the Justices in the borough. The reply I got indicated that this person definitely did not sign the document. The Council were then instructed that the document was defective as it was not signed by a person known to the Court or the Council.
In the first Notice served on the Councils Head of Revenues and Benefits it was suggested that the Summons was defective. The Head of Revenues and Benefits replied:
“Summonses must be authorised by a Justice of The Peace or Clerk to the Justices and who’s signature appears on the Summons must have personally considered the complaint. As you now know this makes the Summons lawful and not defective as stated in your letter paragraph 5b.”
This is typical of the response from Councils, there is an over confident reply which is completely at odds with the facts. They also refer to Notices as ‘letters.’ There seems to be a cosy arrogance in all the correspondence, and if you nail them on anything they say its their ball and they are not playing! They are compartmentalised within their departments and seem to have no idea or no interest in what is really going on, those higher up the corporate ladder however must know.
Maybe some of my info did sink in as I Noticed that the job of Head of benefits and Revenues was recently being advertised in a local employment agency window!
Yes WE Summons you to Court
The next revelation was even better! It became clear that the Summons document was the same typeface and border as other Council documents. Yes, the Council issue their own Summonses! Now this has been confirmed as fact by Council staff. This is fraud and perjury under the 1911 Perjury Act and a crime under the Administration of Justice Act. Anyone except a Court issuing a document, that appears to be from a Court, is breaking the law.
This was pointed out in the next Notice to the Head of Benefits and Revenues but the reply came from someone else in the department. This seems to be the strategy when difficult questions arise – nobody takes responsibility. The reply stated,
“No further correspondence on the issues you have raised will be entered into.”
As far as the suggestion goes that the Council was guilty of fraud and perjury, their response was that they would defend themselves in Court and I would be liable for their costs if they won the case. This makes sense, as in the Borough I live the Court and town hall are on the same Council owned land. If your part of the corporation, everybody Wins!
It now appears that Councils all over the Country issue their own Summonses, they then hire a room in the Court for a ‘bulk hearing.’ The room is not part of the Court, as the Court are not involved (apart from financially). This has also been confirmed by people who work in the Court. As there is no due process being followed here, it would appear the whole procedure is a sham.
Issuing a Summons
If there is a case to be heard in the Court it has to be sent to the Court clerk (or Court manager at County Court) to consider, they then issue a Summons which is sent directly from the Court. As the Council issue the Summons it is not a Court matter, they just make it appear so by inviting (Summonsing) the person to the Court. As this is just a procedural matter for summary judgement (person already liable) and not of course a “hearing” it makes sense for them to do it themselves!
No Liability Order
The Council then state in the follow up documentation, ‘Notice of impending enforcement action’ or ‘Liability Order notification’ – this means a Liability Order was issued against the person, but it’s of course not possible as there was no Court. No Liability Order has been received from the Court by anybody I have met who has stopped paying Council tax. The reason for this is of course because there was no Court. Two corporations are involved, the Council who hire the room in the Court; and Court officials/staff in the Court who are paid by the Council. In many boroughs the Town Hall, Council buildings and Court are on the same land, owned by the Council.
This ‘Notice of impending enforcement action’ or ‘Liability Order notification’ is not a Liability Order. It also makes threats including making you bankrupt in the high Court with all assets frozen; being sent to prison; a charging Order put on your property; and then at the end of this diatribe, appointment of bailiffs. These documents are pretty generic in the different boroughs and presumably represent new powers given to local authorities – they are deliberately intimidating, but enforcing all this is of course a completely different matter.
A Liability Order has to be signed by the Judge or Magistrate and also sealed by Court. It is then sent to the person liable and also the Claimant. If the amount on the Order is not paid within the specified time then the Court can appoint bailiffs on behalf of the Claimant.
Debt collectors not Bailiffs
The Council although unable to produce a real Liability Order, then states that bailiffs have been appointed on behalf of the Council to recover the debt. This is of course impossible as there was no Court, so no bailiffs can be appointed, as they must have an Order from the Court that appointed them.
Bailiffs also have to be reregistered every two years; have an ID number; and give their full name, which can be verified by doing an Internet search. Debt collectors call themselves bailiffs and rely on peoples’ ignorance. Your birth certificate made you a ‘person’ who is ‘liable’ so ‘let he who will be deceived be deceived.’
The corporate nature of the Councils and Courts just means they pretend that bailiffs have been instructed, this is of course not possible so they appoint a debt collection agency who then send out ‘bailiff’ letters. These letters are very threatening in capital letters with a box stating ‘Removal of your goods’ or ‘Bailiff Removal.’
Bailiffs do have certain powers to collect debts, but debt collectors do not! (The powers given to bailiffs can be easily found on the Internet). Debt collectors do claim they are bailiffs and also send out documentation that is unlawful and completely unethical.
The problem with all these ‘bailiff’ letters that I have seen is that none of them bear the Bailiffs full name, certification number and Court Order reference, which of course they must have if they are issued by a bailiff.
This means of course that the debt collection agency is a third party interloper who has purchased or contracted with the Council for the Council tax debt offences. This means that the debt no longer has anything to do with the Council and the debt collector has no real power of enforcement action as a Court was not involved.
Ask your Council for a true copy of a Liability Order and see what happens, things could go VERY quiet.
Return to sender
If you want to have some fun look up the debt collection company on the companies house register and redirect all mail back to the Managing Director (after having served Notice on him or her with fee schedule attached) at their registered address and update your fee schedule on each new envelope that you return.
If you want to read what these computer printout ‘Notices’ say hold them up to a powerful light and you will see it all through the envelope. One thing is for sure, it won’t be signed by a bailiff with the relevant info. Another good idea is to let them know that your fees for handling their deceptive ‘bailiff’ letters will be collected by a debt collection agency! This has to be the next logical step, getting debt collectors onto the debt collectors and Councils.
The Councils only form of redress after this is to go to Court and put a Charging Order on your property if you ‘own’ it or try some other route like trying to get you into Court. If you ignore all this there seems to be little they can do, as they run out of ideas when the robotic paper trail stops. If you are on Benefits or in Council property refusing to pay Council tax, it may not be a good idea, as they can evict you or have Benefits stopped at source.
And finally for your delectation and delight… The unlawful Debtors Notice… Flatulence in contract is an offence.
Along with the document ‘Notice of impending enforcement action’ or ‘Liability Order notification’ the Council also include a ‘Notice’ to debtors, which makes threats and menaces. It also makes unlawful ‘demands’ for information on the reverse. There is also a quote from a local Councilor! The document states:
“It is an offence not to complete and return the enclosed financial information form”. xxxx xxxx Council are now taking legal action against customers who do not return their form fully completed. This legal action will result in a criminal conviction and fine of up to £1000.”
This is of course completely untrue. Other Boroughs just ‘request’ this information, my Council demand it as if it is the law. This ‘demand’ is of course never followed up. Information demanded includes National Ins number; name of employer; address of employer; date of birth; and all details of benefit claims etc. Then there’s part C that states you MUST fill it in. This demands name; email address; telephone number; and then of course you MUST sign it!
These threats are carried on at the bottom of the form saying,
“You will be committing a criminal offence if you do not give the above information and you can be fined up to £1000 pounds, as well as getting a criminal record. The same will happen if you give information that is not true.”
They also state that they would take legal action against anyone who did not fill the form in and that cases had been held in magistrates Court and the debtors receiving fines of £100 plus £85 costs. This is a bare faced lie!
Of course if you were unfortunate or gullible enough to fill in this badly worded junk mail they really have got you. If you filled it in and gave false information that would indeed be an offence. Fraudulence in contract IS an offence, but IGNORING an unlawful piece of paper is not!
One of the other many problems with the form is that the Council is known ONLY as LBWF and it was confirmed in writing that xxxx xxxx Council did not exist! Their corporate office stated this in a freedom of information request. I also included this in my Notice that demanding payment for an organisation which did not exist appeared to be fraudulent. This fact was of course ignored.
Having found out the name of the Council solicitor who put this rubbish together, I stated this would be investigated. Having served Notice on the Head of Governance and Law, (the top lawyer in the Borough), I can say from experience these people do not know how to do their jobs or even know the law, and they just seem to break it when it suits them.
In short there is a lot of noise and threats made which are just hot air in order to scare the public into paying off the banks and the national debt!
For anyone who saw the film “Councils, Courts and Conmen” on YouTube the Order at the end of the film was not a Liability Order, just the amount of liable persons who were ‘Summoned’ to the Court. There was no name on the Order, it was simpler just to make the point that the ‘liability’ was established before the hearing, and of course they had to book Court number 1 because 14 witnesses turned up! This appears to be just part of the huge corporate scam that Councils are involved in. There is much more we have uncovered and will post in due course.
Well that’s the end of the paper trail for now. However, when there is a registered PERSON at your address, you know there is bound to be more!
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After the council harassing me for over 3 months for council tax I do not owe (I owed court costs which they added onto my already fully paid council tax bill), they went back to court to say I had not complied with the liability oreder and I received another summons. I reminded the council they issued a court summons which they have no right to do, that they used the wrong section of council tax enforcement policy when applying for the liability order and, that the courts did the liability orders in bulk which goes against magistrate regulations.
The council have now said they will withdraw the complaint and cancel the court hearing because it is uneconomical to chase me for £65 at the moment.
But they still have the original liability order which no doubt they will try to enforce at a later date!!
It’s quite a shock to realise that you’ve been had all these years. The council claiming a tax illegally under false pretences and using fear tactics and deception in order to extort money. This is real gangster stuff. I plan to fight this now I know. I’ve had those ‘debt collectors’ turn up around 5am in the past – let’s see what happens next time.
This is extortion which is not only unlawful it is also illegal. Surely we can hold them to account by reporting their criminal activity to the police?
I have just recieved a Magistrates Court letter signed at the bottiom by a Mr R Metcalfe (Legal Team manager) I telephone the council and said “what are you doing sending out council letters headed as magistrates Court letters. the woman said that Oh! we are authorized to send them. I said shouldnt it at least be signed by the court and she couldnt answer.
Interestly enough it states at the bottom of the letter: If you do not appear this complaint will be dealt with in your absence according to LAW
They have spely my name wrong and made reference to “defendant” and there are two of us? named on the lettet
What advice have you for me. I would love to take these criminals on
Peace to you all
david the police dont do stuff in our interest. http://www.tpuc.org/content/police-0
I want to draw visitors’ attention to the fact that not all councils are as incompetent or as devious as the council mentioned above. I have stopped paying council tax to my local authority – a district council in Suffolk. I object to having my income stolen from me by demand and then spent on whatever folly the council decides or prop up the extravagant salaries, pensions and perks of its senior executives. The County Council Chief Executive here earns £220,000 and a “head of communications” is on £182,000. I earn a fraction of that. Anyway the council did issue a genuine liability order on court paper signed by the Clerk for the Justices. I wrote to him and he confirmed he is a genuine Clerk of the Court and he signed several hundred liability orders over the space of several days.
I still refused to pay and the heavies have been round in the past fortnight (while I was at work) leaving threatening letters which are in contravention of the 2002 National Standards for Enforcement Agents so a Form 4 complaint will be submitted in the next few days to the Court which certificated him.
And I have to add that the individual bailiff is indeed certificated. He left his ref. no. and I checked with the HM Courts Service website and his is currently on their register.
Certificated or not it doesn’t matter on this occasion as I have beaten the bailiffs on several past occasions so know the score. Everyone should make themselves aware of their own rights and what a bailiff can in reality do as opposed to what these bullies claim they can do and plan a course of action should a debtor receive a knock on the door or receives one of their lie filled letters of demand to seize.
So not everything that is reported above by the former employee of LBWF is applicable to all councils.
Now my question is this….. I can find ways to beat the council’s demands for information about employers etc (I’m self employed!) but the next course of action available to the council is a request for either imprisonment or insolvency. Spending a few weeks with full bed and board might be a bit inconvenient but if it costs the State £800 a week to keep me in a place where I have access to a gym, library, internet access, free dental treatment and 3 meals then so be it. However I have discovered that committal to prison is not specifically for non-payment but contempt of court and time served in detention does not discharge the debt to the council.
So my question is what to do next? I want some sound advice from anyone – if indeed there is anyone who has really stayed the course and taken it as far as possible. The lawful rebellion movement attracts a lot of bluffers who talk the talk but have actually done nothing; so proper advice from someone who has really been there and done that! Thanks.
If I’m the first to go thus far then I’ll let you all know how I get on.
Actually let me rephrase one sentence above – it was NOT the council which “issued” the liability order – it was posted in ordinary mail by the council staff with a council return address but the liability order was issued by the Court duly signed by a Clerk for the Justices who works for HMCS and not the Council.
@SuffolkLiberty – I know exactly how you feel, I’m in exactly the same boat (right down to being self-employed!). The only difference is I have two councils applying for committal!
Hello,
I’m being chased by Glasgow City Council for council tax arrears for a property I have not lived in for about 6 years! (only lived there for 6 months). I sent them copies of my council tax payments for the property I’ve been living in since then as well as a copy of my lease there.
They are claiming that unless I can provide a copy of the 6 month lease I signed all those years ago, I am liable. I’ve been trying to get this sorted for over a year now and no luck – today I was served a warrant at my home (not sure if this was from the courts or the debt collection agency) and have been advised that my wages will be arrested in 14 days.
Is this legal – can anybody help?
Thanks,
Jen
Jen,
Ask the council to provide the proof that you lived at the property for the five and a half years. Invoke BOTH FoIA and DPA and insist that the proof be sent to the local country court.
i have recived a final notice for council tax when i phoned them to ask when they were going to take me to court they said i will recieve a summons through the post i would like to go to court to argue this unjust tax but was told i dont need to attend,i want to though, any ideas of what i should say when i get there so i dont get locked up as i refuse to pay this unjust tax or listen to the currupt people in power any longer
If they choose to claim powers they do not have, issue fraudulent summonses etc. a private prosecution could be very effective. It would certainly make them take notice.
Hi could anyone clarify whether if you do go to prison for non payment whether you still have to pay the council the debt or whether the time you spend in prison wipes the debt please
Hi there,
Was wondering if anyone had any advice/info on my current situation.
I am living in Scotland (Glasgow City Council) and am on benefits.
Hopefully I will get a job in the near future but do not want to pay this unlawful “council” tax. I am also in a housing association property.
Can they evict me from this property for non payment and/or stop my wages/benefits? And is there any other way they can get you?
Hopefully when I know more of this situation I can help others out who want to stop being robbed by the council.
Thank you for your time and help!!
Are the rules concerning oaths also the same for District Judges in County Courts?
Don’t reply to their letters, keep your doors and windows closed, don’t interact with debt collectors, (remember if they bring the police you still don’t need to let them in, police are only there to uphold the peace) – (Also remember they a warrent to enter your property not a liability order) If you have a liability order say you’l pay so long as they can prove that it is a law-full tax in the first place, state your required proof and give them a time limit for providing this proof. Also remember to film debt collectors behavior, if they put added fines unto your “debt” then realize that there is a limit to how much they can charge and if they overcharge you can do them for fraud and they will loose their licence because of a criminal record. If all else fails and you know that they are going to enter your property then sell all your goods to a friend for a pound and keep the receipt, they can’t take what isn’t yours.
awesome information guys im well impressed
If you start paying installments have you agreed to consent to the act of parliament that states you have to pay council tax? Or can you just stop paying at any time? I was fine paying it until they consented for someone else to close the account and take a £150 refund which they are now asking us for.
TO SuffolkLiberty…I am actually pursuing criminal charges against a council in Suffolk on the grounds that they are in fact breaking the 1911 act of Perjury and Administrations of justice act, I am looking for ANYONE who has a so called summons sent to them from the council, as the act depicts that for every perjured letter, is in fact a separate charge, and the maximum penalty if found guilty in this charge is 7 years imprisonment, Please look me up on facebook if you live in suffolk, and have a recent summons (or so called summons) from Suffolk council, and these summons must be still to be “heard” at court, IE:- They still have time left on them before the phantom court case…You can find me @ http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1733661231
Remember the more we have of these Illegal summons…The bigger the charge and the louder the noise we can make.
Any body had hmcs guidance notes included with their ‘summons’ ?
to pee’d off tax payer I am in this situation now this is exactly what I was thinking why are they allowed to commit perjury i would like to contact you on this by email however I am not on facebook purely because that is no different than the census in there sign up agreement they are allowed to share your info to whom they wish that is why I deleted my profile
HELP! My brother who is 59yrs old is being persued for Council Tax he does not owe. The Council are persuing him for tax which was for a property they condemned as unfit for habitation. This was 9 years ago, he has heard nothing from them during the last 9 years which makes the ‘debt’ statute barred, he has stated in ‘court’ that he stands under common law jurisdiction and to continue to use the legal system amounts to harrasment. The Council (Gloucester) have continued to harass him and using unlicensed Debt Collectors. Several weeks ago this ‘Debt Collector’ arrived at his home and when he would not answer the door to him he called the Police who broke the door to gain access, assaulted him and then unlawfully ‘arrested’ him and detained him. He was taken to the Police station, where it was stated they did not want him, he was then “bailed for non payment of Council Tax” and taken by ambulance to Hospital where he was treated for serious injuries. He now has to undergo surgery. He has been invited back to ~Court~ on the 8th July where the Council say they are asking for his committal to prison. Can anyone assist in this situation, this Council seem to make up the law to suit themselves. My brother has all the documents to prove he did not owe the Council Tax in the first instance.
TONY
Update to previous posting;
My brother has been sent to prison for 2 weeks. We were told that the Court were not interested in any argument of whether he owed Council Tax or not and unless he paid the amount being claimed (originally just over £100 but inflated by the Council to almost £700) he would go to prison – he said he would not pay something he does not owe. He requested to see the Magistrates Oath on 5 occasions but they would not produce them. He also stated that he was standing in ‘The Court’ under Common law jurisdiction and would not stand in the dock so stood in the aisle. He will be starting a civil claim against Gloucester City Council and claiming damages against the Police for the serious injury sustained during the assault.
After reading through thes threads i would like to hear from people like myself who have refused invitations to the mock court and who are serious about joining to bring down these councils for perjury and and unlawful tactics.
People should watch the film the man who sued God ( this guy played the bigest so called authorities against each other using a lawful arrangement called a class act)
A class act is when many people act has one in court, these organisations keep us in singular fashion using every trick and deception to bully by virtue of their sheer numbers.
Its gone on to long. we are the many lets all stand together NOW.
I’m on the lawful rebellion web site as the slavenomore
Thanks for reading.
Our local council don’t ask me for CT any more. No demands. No threats. they just ignore me ans stopped asking for it. I simply wrote to the electoral office stating that I cannot prove I am the Name or anything other than an alleged representative of the Name. As I can’t prove that I am the Name and there is the potential of fraud or deception having taken place during the birth registration (it happens) then I couldn’t guarantee that I wasn’t committing electoral fraud by using it. I asked them for reassurance that if I used the name to vote that I wasn’t committing fraud. Response? Silence. Stopped asking for CT at that point. Followed up with a notice of tacit agreement. Still more silence. As I am not willing to accept liability or responsibility for a legal fiction that I don’t own, that I can’t prove has anything to do with me as a human, and which I don’t comprehend, I asked them whether they’d be interested in achieving remedy by accepting liability for use of the Name. Remedy was offered all peaceful and pleasant like. Response. More silence. I like this method. Non-aggressive. Polite. No court invites. They either deal with the free man or they have to try and deal with an expensive legal fiction mess of their own creation. Worked for me. Interested to hear if anyone has success similarly? No-one else has used it to the best of my knowledge. If I’m not on the electoral register then I have withdrawn my consent to be governed by statute. That was my goal. I’m not sure how CT and voter registration is connected as I only wanted to formally remove consent to be governed but someone else might be able to shed some light on it all. Hope this helps someone. I use this passive method a lot and its been 100% effective so far.
Oh, and I back up my letters with a liberal sprinkling of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights 1948:
Preamble. Justifies Lawful rebellion against tyranny and oppression.
Article 1. We are born free.
Article 20(2). We are not compelled to belong to an association. (local council, UK Govt, EU)
I also chuck in that I am a Conscientious Objector to foreign military aggression and any contribution in any manner to the Iraq/Afghanistan/Libya invasions conflicts with my obligations under the UDHR1948 (and my desire) to act in a brotherly manner with my fellow humans. Bombing civilians in Libya is not an act of national defence. This is something I do feel strongly about and I’d be willing to be imprisoned for. Wouldn’t make good headlines for the council and I suspect many support my stance. How much of your council tax ends up buying military equipment?
recieved an illegal summons from leeds council to attend the magistrates court when i got there it was not a court room but just a normal room full of benifits staff no usher’s clerk’s or even a magistrate. if you wanted to see or appear before one the council staff said they would book an appointment for another day!!! when it was pointed out that their letters and in fact the sham hearing was illegal they got very defenive then refused to speak until the council solicitor was present when the same was put to her she stated that she would have to go back to her office and read up on the law !!! hahaha!
Council tax is illegal under the Magna Carta . We are all being conned , lied to , and cheated by the corrupt councils in this corrupt society
i today used ,alot ive learnt from this site ,my council chesterfield borough backed down to obtaining a LO,i told them i would ask them to swear on oath the summons was a legal document ,[i got right to the top ]my was they ruffled ,we need to take these charlatans on with a class act .asap
what a load of crooks these lot are
this is crimanality at its worst ,we must stand up to these people
Hello Bollixed, many congratulations on your apparent success. I’d really like to give your method a go for myself and was wondering whether you might consider helping me with the necessary guidance throughout the process?
I had the White van with two thugs come to my doors manny years ago all my comuity back then stuck as one about 30 of us surrounded is van this was before
Mobile phones I was told to go indoors wile they tiped the van upside down with them in it they ran away the van got rote off only the tow truck came back nether sent anyone else
Can anybody just answer a few of my queries…I haven’t paid my council tax for 2009, as I was on long term sick leave from work and receiving SSP. And I haven’t started to pay this years yet. I live in private rented accommodation, which I had to get my eldest daughter and friend to rent for me as I was unable to get a good credit reference, as my home was repossessed, when my husband left me, and didn’t help with the mortgage repayments. I am a single parent and live in this house with my youngest daughter who is at college, my friend stays occasionally. Anyway the problem I have is I cant get the council to put the council tax bill solely in my name as it isn’t on the tenancy agreement, my friend and myself both received a summons for non paymentt of council tax, from Manchester Magistrates Court, with an unrecognisable photocopied signature, with District Judge/Justice of the peace printed under it.
Following this we have had threatening bailiff letters from Rossendales, saying they are going to remove furniture, and attend with a van, my friend is concerned that this is going to affect her future credit, I have explained to this company that she doesn’t live here, and offered to pay instalments myself which they have declined, I explained the house I rent is let fully furnished and all myself and daughter own are clothes/bedlinen etc. They asked for copies of my wage slips and financial statement which i did send, but had no reply since June. I myself am very worried and anxious about this situation, and the rights of the above bailiffs, I do want to pay the outstanding bill, but at am amount that I can afford even if it takes 2/3 years, I am not trying to avoid paying it. Can anyone advise me on who I need to contact, and how to word what I need to say as all the above seem very complicated. Are Rossendales registered bailiffs, and what rights have they got. Thankyou anybody for your help., and advice
Here is a package (Folder name: bailiff_pack) from Dave Clarence. The Subject is Council Tax. [will help you understand how to fight the council]
http://forum.worldfreemansociety.org/viewtopic.php?p=82246
You should specifically download (http://forum.worldfreemansociety.org/viewtopic.php?p=82246) and send “1_CTAX_BAILIFPACK_Council_response_to_summons” when you receive the summons.
The final hurdle before a ‘real’ trail occurs is (if the council ever manage to get you into one) is a “committal hearing” – where a judge decides if there is enough evidence for a trial. At this point you need not a ‘liar’ (also know as a lawyer) – just go thru each point of in the court listed on your “1_CTAX_BAILIFPACK_Council_response_to_summons” letter and demand the council prove each element. Council WILL fail – because as proven above, this is a false deceptive tax on the poor. Hence no case, no council tax, end of story and your turn to sue them and kick butt!
Most important of all you must go in there with the truth in your heart. Only a person who stands in spirit and truth can stand. If you don’t have truth, which is ONLY found in Jesus Christ our Lord, you have nothing and even that which you have will be talen away from you. The Lord offers you the free gift of life everlasting, take it while there is time; you can find it here: http://www.seafox.com/
Here is the letter in case its not downloadable (below are ‘notes’ on how to fill in the key words in the letter):
[First Name]: of the [Family Name] family
[Your Adress]
[Your Adress]
[Town]
[County]
[Postocde]
[Head of Legal Services Full Name]
[Council Name]
Trading as [District Council Name] (if applicable)
[Registered Address]
[Town]
[County]
[Postcode]
[Date]
Your reference [Case Reference]
Account Ref Number [Council Tax Account Number]
My Ref [Your Reference]
Dear [Council Name],
I am in receipt of a letter from [Town] MAGISTRATES COURT In respect of the above A/C number & Addressed to [TITLE] [FIRST NAME] [LAST NAME].
In the matter of your claim for council tax arrears for £[AMOUNT] I can advise that I conditionally accept your offer to pay council tax as per the payment plan discussed on the phone, conditional upon the following -
1.That you can demonstrate that there is a contract between the [Council Name] & me ([First Name]: [Family Name] ) The man & not ([TITLE] [FIRST NAME] [LAST NAME]) the person & a corporation.
2.That [Council Name] have given full disclosure (as required by common law) re the services being offered & that these have been accepted by me for the value stated.
3.That you can demonstrate manifestation of intent by way of my seal and/or autograph on a contract between us.
4.That the terms and conditions of any contract are lawful (in common law – Not statute law ).
5.That a liability order is being sought against the legal fiction [TITLE] [FIRST NAME] [LAST NAME] a person and a corporation by [COUNCIL NAME IN CAPS] ( a corporation ) being of equal status as required by law & NOT against [First Name]: of the family [Family Name] ( a man ) and of greater value & thus superior status to a corporation which would render the proceedings unequal in law and thus invalid.
6.That Council Tax is lawful.
I would further advise that I do not give my consent to hearings being conducted in a court de facto … & insist that this matter be dealt with in a court de jure … under common law jurisdiction & that judgement be by way of a jury of my peers.
I would further advise that [COUNCIL NAME IN CAPS] Legal team should be fully aware of the status of [TOWN IN CAPS] MAGISTRATES COURT as being a branch of the ministry of justice which is a registered corporation – & as such conducts its business under admiralty jurisdiction -whose rulings are invalid on dry land without the consent of BOTH parties to the hearing & that I specifically do not give my consent to these proceedings under this jurisdiction.
While not wishing to appear dishonourable in this matter, I look forward with interest to your comments on this matter.
Yours sincerely without ill-will, vexation or frivolity
[First Name]: of the [Family Name] family (Agent)
Life Force – Soul of Man
WITHOUT PREJUDICE, i.e. all Natural Inalienable Rights Reserved Please address all future correspondence in the matter to a direct Human Self, namely [First Name]: of the [Family Name] family, as commonly called.
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COUNCIL TAX – BAILIFF PACK
NOTES
1.Where you see anything in BOLD RED and enclosed in Square Parenthesis like so:-
[COUNCIL NAME]
then simply enter the data being requested and return the style to normal like so:-
Warrington District Council
2.Where you see [TITLE] [FIRST NAME] [LAST NAME] then this means you should enter your name as shown in the corporate world (in caps with a Title) like so:-
MR. JOHN EDWARD SMITH
3.Where you see “[First Name]: of the [Family Name] family” then this means you should enter your name as a Freeman on the land like so:-
John Edward: of the Smith Family
NB: The colon after your first names is intentional so do not remove it.
I have received a bailiff removal notice for non payment of council tax. The back story is not really that important but basically i earn £31,500 per year. Out of that i pay over £14,328 per year in tax, national insurance and child support combined (my ex is on benefits and i have my children 3 nights per week and yet still have to pay £306 per month). I live in a one bedroom flat. I’m not provided with a bin so have to put my refuse outside the front of my building where inevitably seagulls rip them apart and litter the path and steps with waste. They say that i’m required to pay £1076.28 in council tax per year. This would make a grand total of £15,404
So in total I am expected to pay out very nearly half of my annual salary in various ways to live and work in this country.
Rant complete. My question is does a bailiff have the power to enter my rented property if I am not present or if i choose not to answer the door? If so, will a receipt of sale of all my personal belongings to a friend prevent removal of goods?
hey, irish. I can’t give a definite answer as to what people might or might not do. The best thing you can do is get knowledgable. And the law states no entry without a warrant signed by an officer of the court, unless it’s for criminal fines and even then only sometimes. more here: http://www.adviceguide.org.uk/d_bailiffs.pdf
Hi, I would REALLY like to know about dumping my name and ‘legal fiction’ as a cog in the machine, whether it affords me more freedom or not.
Can bollixed please reply with more details, or anyone else who knows about doing this?
Thanks.
Re bollixed’s posts on becoming a ‘free individual’, one thing concerns me.
I live in a Council property, and wonder if I remove my given and family names from electoral roles, could they in future evict me or take other action as I could no longer prove who I am by name?
If they accept you are a free citizen with no proof of Birth Certificate name and act accordingly, might some of their actions turn out to be detrimental..? I think some care is needed before taking this route.
Wanted to say – some great information here!
And Duncan – in particular who posted back in September last year, 2010, a wonderful post which I have noted and used your information – thank you so much! I’m still getting the rubbish threatening letters from bailiffs through the post which I ignore of course – but no more littering – they’re too afraid to come to my home now. They know I know the law, English Common Law but I’m also getting an affidavit to send them now – because it’s boring receiving the letters!
I sent them a letter by recorded delivery stating that their offer of contract was refused past, present and future and that I would video any further trespassing by them if they attend my home again and use it as evidence.
There’s also an English Common Law passed in 1959 which I’ve quoted below for you to use which I also quoted in the letter to them, that stops anyone attending your home – (apart from the postman or a stranger asking for directions!) – without your permission – and you can revoke license for them or any of their representatives from their company to attend your home. They CANNOT then attend your home. As Duncan states, bailiffs are just companies and have no power over you.
They’re such bullies, if they should attend your home after you’ve written that to them, even though they have absolutely no business to, do what Duncan states to do and don’t forget to video them!
Here is the law, as well as stating your refusal to contract with them past, present and future, quote this in your letters to them:
Under English Common Law, there is only an implied licence for people to be able to visit me on my property without express permission; the postman and people asking for directions etc (Armstrong v Sheppard & Short Ltd [1959] 2 QB 384. per Lord Evershed M.R.). Therefore take note that I revoke license under Common Law for your company, or any of your representatives to visit me at my property, and, if you do so, (write ‘do so again’ if they have already), you will be liable to damages for a tort of trespass and action will be taken.
Obviously include the case mentioned in brackets above too.
Best of luck to all and be fearless!
Hi all, this is my first visit, i wish everyone the best of luck, if anyone has any advice for me i wold be most greatful , my short story is as follows….i live in Devon and i have to answer to Torbay council, myself and partner owe £800 to them, for what exact dates i do not no yet as on the “court summons” it didnt state any dates, i will admit we havent always paid on time but when we do have it we pay it, as money like everyone else’s is tight, my partner works full time , and we have 2 children my youngest is 2 , its nearly xmas and they state in the summons i dont have to go to court ,the court wont enter into an agreement with you, if i dont pay by 7th dec then they will add £75 on and give me 14 more days to pay or the ballifs are coming, which would make it a day or 2 after xmas day, my kids wont be getting alot at all this year which i already feel upset and stressed over, now im panicing that whatever we do manage to get them will be taken away ,can ballifs take xmas presents from kids? im really no good at all of this legal stuff, i read alot on here but i still dont fully understand it all, my letter also said it was a sommons from the court but i have had court letters in the past and this one is like all of yours it is obviously done by the council, i hate owing money and its not that i dont want to pay im just having trouble doing it, what can happen to me? its keeping me awake at nght and making me ill ,ive only got 6 days left and im extremely anxious, the thing that bugs me is after a certian time i think its 12.30am they now turn all the street lights off to save money but yet they dont take money off our bill they keep it ,and chase people who have nothing,you cant get a council house down here there isnt any left infact they now tell you to go find a private place instead ,and down here the rents not cheap! i feel so lost and clueless is there anything i can do? can they take kids beds ect? thanx for taking the time to read this. And goodluck again to everyone struggling to survive in this money grabbing country! .
really good post, always good to hear about others on the system boycott
the main arcticle here pretty much describes the timeline of events exactly how the council tax saga happened for me, non payment, summons, liability order, ‘baliff’ notice… now a committal notice dropped through the door the other day. all ive done so far is ignore everything theyve sent, it is fun to take them on at their own game, it can be almost pointless doing so though, but there are some excellent sucess stories out there…
for me and some others, we are now and always will be on a total system boycott… no income tax, NI, bank account, loan, phone/internet contracts etc,, and in 5 weeks time i move away from this house.. so hopefully that will make me a little harder to track, id encourage everyone to shed thier digital trail as much as possible, and do their best to never pay any kind of tax
hi, i need serious advice, my “hearing ” ive been summoned to is on wednesday, i have a summons letter like the ones u have discribed ,the justice of peace signature is not clear at all and no printed name, i really want to argue this as some of you have but how do i start? i get extremely nervous when dealing with authority , should i stand my ground on it? and whats best to do first as im almost out of time? wish i had seen this site sooner !!
find people to talk to near you: visit lawful rebellion collectives
https://lawfulrebellion.crowdmap.com/
fremen – despite all the paperwork in the world, all the court performances and all the right learnings undertaken it is still uo them to actually collect from you. yours is as solid a route as any other IMHO.
find other people to talk to near you
https://lawfulrebellion.crowdmap.com/
spot on ritchie – i feel that true freedom will become blindingly obvious once you eventually realise that you have been free all along, i fully support the likes of John Harris, Ray St Clair and others who take on the contract/statute deception & everyone should always do their best to stand their ground at every oppertunity, but for me personally and as i can imagine is the same for the vast majority of us, we just do not have the contract/statute law know how to stand in court and fire legalese back and forth and actually win without any reprecussions, same applies to written documents, there is no form you can fill in & no affidavidt you can send that will make you any more or less free than what you are and always have been.
I always encourage everyone to learn about law as a whole, specifically the deceptions of contract/statute law…. look at people like John Harris (TPUC), Raymond St Clair (Freedom Rebels) & Dean Cliffird (Lessons in Trust Law), watch Ungrip feat Rob in the Page family, and for global freedom of fear all together everyone should check out Max Igan’s Radio Archive on his website … thecrowhouse.com
Alexia my friend, you seem like you are in the shoes i once was, wanting to play the game, just not too sure how to and nervous about doing so… best thing i did, decide not to play at all, take the moral highground in knowing that im not providing funding for war, geoengineering, terrorist (police) abuse of innocent people, criminal enforcement non existent contracts & the potential kidnap, imprisonment and murder of my family member
Be Strong, No Fear, You Are Not Alone, We Are All Making A Stand Together, And Together We Will Prosper
Interesting read, the article and the following comments.
Whilst I agree with many people’s points of view, I can’t understand those who wish to never pay any form of tax. Of course our tax funds some things which we won’t agree on (wars, bankers (bailouts), benefits etc etc) – but we do have to pay some taxes, otherwise where would the public facilities come from we do want come from (Hospitals, emergency services, roads etc).
@Fremen, if you were to injure yourself I’d imagine you’d go into a Hosptial, or if you were to crash your car you’d would want assistance. Examples are endless, unless you live on an island and fend solely by yourself?
@ Matt Sharp..
you make a good point, one often raised… when it comes to funding, the structure is flawed from the very foundation its built on by depending on the money issued by a private company, in our case The Bank of England… our history shows clearly how private banking institutions paved their way into government, said bankers pushed legislation allowing them to become the private (outside any jurisdiction of a government) company which issue’s a nations money, this legislation was passed in 1913 and appears to of grown globally from there, prior to this paper money was backed by gold or other precious metals, paper was merely a receipt as proof the gold existed and said gold was redeemable at a bank… post 1913 private banks had the power (as it were) to create a nations money out of thin air.. at the drop of a hat £100b (eg) can be conjured into existence, loaned to a government with interest attached, and is backed by nothing, money backed by no gold, silver etc enables he who controls the amount of money (now just paper or digital credit) in circulation to heavily influence inflation & interest rates nationally & globally and on a broader scale whether directly or indirectly the general condition of a community who depend on its money… so, Why (????) when a government has the power to create its own nations money, free from interest, inflation & debt, does it allow a private company to create & issue its money for an ever increasing fee with tax payers being put on the employee treadmill as collateral ??.. I would also bring into question the claim that taxed money is to fund services for those who pay a tax, the name escapes me now but someone quite credible is quoted to say that taxes go straight to pay off the initial debt to the bank.
there is a whole load of information out there, but id reccommend viewing the following .. but dont stop there..
Aaron Russo interviewed by Alex Jones – http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YGAaPjqdbgQ
Aaron Russo – America: Freedom to Fascism – http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lUpZhhbKUBo
Money As Debt – http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dc3sKwwAaCU
noting the above, i ask why should it matter how much paper or digital credits someone can offer to judge if they are worth helping or not when injured ? and going back to your closing question, if i were injured, i would hope that it would be compassion for a fellow man that would see others come to my aid, not the possible profits that may come from providing help to me in a time of distress, If someone needs my help in a time of distress I am there to help, i can only hope that roles reversed someone would do the same for me..