I’m guessing some of you found Lawful Rebellion through looking for new ways of challenging the crooked Penalty Charge Notices (PCNs)? Well this article is all about the background of PCNs and our ideas on the best ways to respond to them.
Before I knew about the PCN deception, I challenged every single parking ticket I ever received on their turf. From memory, my record was pretty good in overturning the tickets. Once I even got the Mayor of Hackney involved regarding my car being unfairly clamped in a place with single yellows and several blank posts back in 2006. Hackney Council completely ignored my letters for a refund for over nine months, which I’m sure isn’t uncommon.
The most expensive parking nightmare I’ve witnessed was in the Private, when my car was towed away from a Petrol Station car park and I ended up paying £300 for my car to be released! If I knew then, what I know now, they would have been the ones paying me if they didn’t give me my car back. Just a note, private ‘fines’ are not valid, as they are not ‘enforceable’. If they take your car away, you can go through a regular Statutory Declaration process citing Section 2 of the Bill of Rights 1689.
Are the DVLA and Councils in collusion to rip us off?
My main problem with PCNs is seeing my friends who are struggling with debt, living costs and taxes, picking off scary Council paper slapped onto their cars, which they think they have to pay. My friends already understand they pay for parking on Public Highways through car tax. But it’s evident car tax is an entirely different ball game today and doesn’t seem to go anywhere on the Highways. Even people like hardman Ray Mallon, ex-Police Chief, now the Mayor of Middlesbrough, thinks that enough is enough with the DVLA,
“They demand the money from people, and don’t mention anything about our legal right to go to court. Members of the public will think they have to pay it, because they don’t know the law, but there are certain principles, which are enshrined in British law. The DVLA has seriously misled the public.”
Be under no illusion, the DVLA has everyone who registers over a proverbial barrel because it is us who literally beg for their care. And it’s registration that the Councils use to send Notices, which to most humans is scary big brother stuff. Now this cooperation of registration is being abused through profiteering schemes like people paying to find out about the details of other peoples cars and for the right price, giving 3rd parties access to peoples’ registration information for the marketing of Castrol Oil on billboards. If the DVLA and Councils are making £328 million (raised in 2008-9) from old rope, surely the people who supplied the rope should see an annual windfall?
PCNs rely on people having registered with the DVLA and becoming the Registered Keeper, note: NOT the registered/legal owner. By the fact the DVLA can take peoples’ cars to be crushed, illustrates that those who are registered aren’t the real owners’. If any of us were the actual owners, the DVLA would be committing a Common Law crime of Theft. Some argue that the DVLA only own the registration number of peoples’ vehicles, not the actual vehicle itself. But by process, people attach the registration to their vehicles and accept they’ll use the vehicle within the confines of registration. The assumption is made that a vehicle in the database is fair game for the DVLA, as it’s in their care, just like an NHS Doctor is in the care of its patients – all in all, very disturbing realities. All I can say is that nobody to our knowledge has made neither heads nor tails of the secretive process of the V5 document, only assumptions based on reactions and knowledge of Commercial Law. What I am sure of is that through action & successfully using the various Notice methods, various administrations go into spasm and no Council has yet possessed the legal resources to dedicate to what is a clear grey area, your rights as a human being and the various legal personalities they extort money from.
A reasonable argument for controlled parking is that people need to park on their own streets and parking restrictions are logical for safety purposes. There are many ways to achieve safety and fairness without treating people like children. None of us really have any idea where the transfer of money ends up, though we did have a little glimpse this year of where some of the money goes when we found out the Councils are lining their pockets in Tax Havens such as Iceland.
The reason Lawful Rebellion exists is to protect our families, communities and the world against the de-facto corporate governance that’s plaguing our lives and taking away our confidence in governing ourselves. As you may have already seen, we’ve started our Toolbox and Lawful Rebellion Guide series’, which have already had amazing results for people. For instance, recently Deadbeat Dads have reported using a variation of our Affidavit that a case has been dropped already. We also know that the same Affidavits have turned away debt collection agencies, bailiffs and councils, and it’s the same with PCNs too.
We acknowledge people have found various ways in fighting PCNs. I for one have helped people out of many PCNs by writing that they’re not the legal owners; and others have successfully used the Freeman technique of clarification that the Person exists. Retrospectively, we reckon there are only two ways to skin these authoritarian swine’s – by saying ‘no contract return to sender’ and/or serving Affidavits. If you’re not ready or have hesitations in asserting yourself with the Authorities, then don’t – wait until you’re ready as fear could get the better of you. Whilst I write these words I wonder how it’s possible to feel spiritual in discussing PCNs! But quintessentially, Lawful Rebellion is about overcoming the fear of people who think they have power over us all.
Be confident that PCNs are in fact contractual agreements
Reminding Borough Councils that PCNs are merely an offer to contract and saying NO is definitely the hardest thing anyone on the start of their journey can do. The best example of someone saying no to PCNs is Nick Henderson of Scarborough originally reported on TPUC. Nick has totalled over £6000 worth of PCNs because he knows he has a right to park outside his home and workplace without hindrance. Originally he used to stick his fingers up by using the Bill of Rights 1689 section 2; clause 12,
“That all Grants and Promises of Fines and Forfeitures of particular persons before Conviction are illegal and void.”
Some argue that this Bill doesn’t stand up well in the Court because there is new legislation that overrides parts of it. But regardless of this issue, Nick Henderson asserts he hasn’t committed a crime, so there is no place for him in Court to be convicted of any wrongdoing. There is damning audio evidence from a meeting between Nick and Ian Anderson, Head of Scarborough Council Legal Services, with Mr Anderson admitting PCNs are not fines but merely contracts.
This information, if you’re bold enough can stop any PCN that unfairly comes your way. There are several ways people administer saying NO and here are a few ideas to start you off. The first I believe John Harris has popularised – slapping a sticker on the sender’s envelope saying, ‘No contract, return to sender’ and posting it off; secondly, you could write the offending Council a letter stating that you will not contract with them; and thirdly, you can put them on Notice, asking for proof that the PCN is not a contract.
They will try again and again to force you to agree to their terms, which are for instance highlighted in John Harris’s Tax Demand case. They’ll do this by sending many letters and then pass the claim to a Debt Collector, which will end up totalling over £350, if it’s a PCN. This method if not managed properly will certainly end up in an unpredictable situation because of the fear factor. You need to always be realistic with how far you’re willing to go, how much time you have and whether or not you care about your possessions. What will also compound fear in peoples’ minds is the new London Authority’s self-appointed ‘power’ to take your car away after you have three overdue PCNs under the London Local Authorities and Transport for London Act 2008 starting soon. If there’s no foundation to the PCN, there’s certainly no foundation in towing your car away. After reading through the Act, there are some interesting measures and a lot of contradictions, which can only be for the famous trick of the Officers saying one thing and meaning another.
PCN Affidavit Method
The issuing of Commercial Affidavits to the De-Facto Government and Authorities of this Country, namely, the Prime Minister (not the Queen) has been practised by Guy Euden and Matt Faraday for a little while now, which many of us are now starting to practise ourselves. For Matt, this process is about,
“Getting rid of the anger, resentment, blame and fear, and using knowledge, truth and the awareness of who and what you are to create your law.”
The commercial Affidavit, if done correctly, creates a private agreement, which means the agreed facts cannot be technically impaired or overridden by any party. This method seems to be the present don-dada of settling matters with any government department, council or organisation who is attempting to contract with you without consent. Matt claims he’s got rid of 9 corporations that were made up of different debt collection companies and government legal departments. Hundreds of people have already downloaded our Affidavits and are hopefully sending them off to the current Prime Minister, Gordon Brown. If you’ve not served your main Affidavit, we’ve created a slightly simpler PCN Affidavit that doesn’t need a notary,
“Instead of a notary we are using two private witnesses to verify. This method is sometimes preferred by many layman law folk, and is a very appropriate, valid and powerful way to get your private documents verified. Although you won’t have the judicial remedy offered by a Notary (I.e. the judicial power of stare decisis), you have the administrative remedy which is all powerful.”
Please download the PCN Affidavit pack here and read through all the docs especially the Notice before going any further.
But we must stress that there’s no point in serving the PCN Affidavit if you’re not ready to stand up for what you think is right possibly in Court and that you full understand why you’re dong it. So ask yourself now, why are you reading this? Is it to get out of irresponsible behaviour or is it because you know whom you are and you’ve been unfairly treated? This is the most important element to the whole shebang, as until you know whom you are and how you need to be responsible for your actions, your heart will not be driving your actions. So why don’t you try amending your Affidavit to your liking and how you see things? When Matt and I chatted about this, he said,
“Folks need to start writing all these documents out from scratch, changing the sentences and words around to create their own. I have much experience of using my private and unique documents and witnessing the power they can create. Your intention is everything, so stop using templates!”
This method is as much about how you deal with it as how you have defined who you are. Matt swears by this Affidavit method and he said that nobody ever ends up on his front door when Authorities wrongfully intrude upon his business. Sceptics always ask me, ‘where’s the proof’, well the proof is when you do it and it works or you see a friend do it and it works. I suppose with anything new you have to try it for yourself and take a leap of faith. Whichever choice you make, you’ll notice that Lawful Rebellion could have already given you more choices than you thought you had before right?
Matt can explain the PCN Affidavit process much better than I!
OK, so let’s imagine that Mary Smith continues in her attempts to extort funds from you by ignoring your Notice, naughty little and deluded dishonourable Mary. But by doing this, she would be attempting to injure a real party, which is extortion (this is where the term ‘tort’ originates, as in tort claim meaning ‘torture’). You may want to continue by gaining a private agreement of the parties, which is private law that cannot be impaired by any other party. Step forward the PCN Affidavit that you should mentioned in your Notice to Mary.
Download the sample documents from the previous Toolbox on Affidavits. Then use the Notice of Fault and Opportunity to Cure and the Notice of Default via the process as explained in the Affidavit article. But, you will have to make further alterations by making sure you replace the Notary verification section with two private witnesses on all the documents.
Now if you live fairly close to the location where the Affidavit needs to be sent, there is another great way to save on the £4.95 x 3 concerning the registered mail cost for the whole process. Either post it by hand yourself and then make these alterations on the Notice of Fault and Opportunity to Cure, and Notice of Default, or get a 3rd party to post by hand and include a Proof of Mailing copy, which is in the PCN Affidavit pack. Again, keep the original of this Proof of Mailing as well as the originals of all your private documents. Remember as the Holder in Due Course of the originals, you can make true, correct and complete copies, as explained in the Affidavit article as mentioned above.
This whole process demonstrates that you know that you are NOT liable for the alleged public debt/liability that is attributed to the PCN, as well as demonstrating that they have no claim whatsoever in this matter against you. You are a man or woman and therefore you are the Sponsors of the Credit and the true wealth and power in commerce.
Download: PCN Affidavit toolbox
Merry Christmas – whatever that means! David Ophalus
Thanks chaps, another gem
Thanks david, very interesting article!
happy solstice and start to a man made calender year to you also. haha
Guys,
I am using a variation of the Affidavit to stop the corrupt CSA/CMEC in their tracks.
I have another hearing(as the Magistrate did not understand!)as this time they are wheeling out a District Judge however hopefully I will prevail.
Without coming across yours and the Dead Beat Dad’s sites I would have been a lamb to the slaughter. I am and have always been a law abiding citizen yet this corrupt government sees me as a soft touch as I am easily accessible and always pay!
It took me a while but I have woken up to their nonsence and have started to fight back.
Keep up the good work!
Thanks David – another good article and good documents again.
As mentioned there is more than one way to skin a cat and there is good evidence to suggest that another low-maintence process is “Refused for cause” (R4C). More information can be found on the Think Free Forum by searching for this phrase, but i’ll sumarise the process. It’s similar to the “No contract, return to sender” process.
Assuming you have received a PCN from a council, and
assuming you have not made any payment to that council before:
**NOTE: You must do this within 72hrs of receiving***
1. Write on the front and back of the PCN in big red capitals:
REFUSED FOR CAUSE
WITHOUT DISHONOUR
WITHOUT PREJUDICE
WITHOUT RECOURSE
2. Keep a photocopy for yourself
3. Return the original PCN to the contact address on it via recorded delivery. You just send back the PCN, no other correspondence.
They may back down at this stage. If they don’t and you do receive a “Notice to Owner” or further correspondence, repeat the process writing front and back on the new correspondece received. Take a copy for yourself. Send the original via recorded delivery within 72hrs.
Repeat for each further corresponce recieved. Evidence suggests they will back down immediately or after 2 or 3 attempts to contract with you IF you follow the steps.
Key Points:
* Return immediately (within 72 hrs) – don’t forget
* Put the R4C wording on the front and back of all pages of the correspondence received
* Keep a copy for your records
* Send the original back recorded delivery
Hi,
that’s good to hear. Keep us informed and check out the following article, as hopefully it will stop you referring to yourself as a “citizen.” http://lawfulrebellion.org/2009/12/09/are-you-a-man-woman-or-neither/
Regards, Matt.
Hi Rob,
thanks for your valuable input, it is always appreciated. Regards my friend, Matt.
its nice to write something that people appreciate and can work with
Hello, I seen in Rob’s message re PCN:
**NOTE: You must do this within 72hrs of receiving***
1. Write on the front and back of the PCN in big red capitals:
REFUSED FOR CAUSE
WITHOUT DISHONOUR
WITHOUT PREJUDICE
WITHOUT RECOURSE
2. Keep a photocopy for yourself
3. Return the original PCN to the contact address on it via recorded delivery. You just send back the PCN, no other correspondence.
PCN is a traffic ticket right??
Would this work for a Utility bill ie: Hydro Bill/Phone Bill Etc. (Account Summary, Statement etc.)?
Or is there another process for this?
Thanks,
Durwin
PCN is a Penalty Charge Notice. Usually dished out as a what we used to call a “parking ticket”.
I would suggest that R4C wouldn’t be effective for anything that you have already “contracted” for – IE if you have already made payments to a particular company and/or received goods or services from a company.
R4C, as with “No Contract, return to sender”, I imagine, works best when a public entity writes to your strawman asking for payment but there is no prior expressed or implied contract.
It has roots in the UCC, and many are unsure as to whether the UCC has relevant in this “country” but evidence suggests that R4C does work over here.
I’m not going to comment on what the remedy for a hydro/phone bill would be as I don’t have experience there. I can think of a few things but I’m sure something will surface soon from someone more experienced with that type of thing.
Hi Rob and Matt
What about income tax. We have all paid our income tax before (or filled in a tax return), and this means we have already contracted? That means we can’t use the “NO CONTRACT – RETURN TO SENDER”? (I know John Harris uses this though). With the Affidavit, we could still get out of the implicit contract? (since it is used to show we are not a PERSON, yet if we contracted before does this mean we accepted we were???)
Also I heard somewhere that for income tax, they have to declare a state of emergency every year to do this and hence a new contract every year.
Hi Reborn,
From my perspective, i agree with you that most have gotten into contract with tax via the national insurance account contract, and subsequent agreements and/or payments. The iceberg has emerged through the surface of the water and, no doubt, it’s hidden depths will be further subject to the light in the coming times!
Remember Matt’s affivadit is essentially circumventing the underlying contract to ALL legislation with the head representative of the legislation machine, unless he rebutts it. I will leave it to Matt as to comment on it’s affect with those from HMRC, if he wants. However, I can’t help feeling that it potentially has the power to not only create a situation of tax exemption, but to offer a platform to reclaim any and all tax ever paid as long there is documentation to back up the claim. I will quickly say that this is just a feeling and is not based on any evidence! Best wishes
Oh, with regard to John’s way with HMRC, i have to admit, i love what he is doing and I think one has to be in a certain place to do that. Stripping away a lifetime’s conditioning of the fear of what might be. We are all getting there and he has my admiration. It reminds me of the scene in V for Vendetta where Evey, having being tortured non-stop, calmly tells her tormentors that she would rather be shot than give up her truth. Realising that they had no power over her, she was freed. Powerful stuff.
Hi,
If you file a tax return then here is a way that you may like to try that leaves no sum outstanding for you to concern yourself about.
On the question that asks for the “Occupation,” please be aware that it is asking this of the STRAWMAN, the legal fiction that has an attributed set of account numbers. So what is the STRAWMAN’S occupation? How about, “Commercial Conduit” or “Transmitting Utility?” So put one of those down.
Now how much do you want to gift the STRAWMAN for its role? £500, £1000 or £4000 maybe. None of the figures will leave a balance outstanding and you have been honest as you see it. Job done. Regards, Matt.
Hello there Matt,
In your last message re: gifting the STRAWMAN for its role, that would be the “year income”? So we can put anything from $0.00 to $1,000,000 ?
Where/what can be done to get the income taxes CPP and all other taxes that were taken off this STRAWMAN income refunded back to us. is that possible?
Thanks
Durwin
Thanks for the reply Rob. All this stuff is fascinating. V for Vendetta is one of my favourite movies. For me tax is just slavery, but the population have been too conditioned to see it for what it really is.
Durwin,
This is one of the problems with answering too many questions my friend; it doesn’t force you to think outside the box that you are firmly stuck in. What is the single “persons” tax allowance in the UK? I think it is about £6475 ish. So the idea is you attribute the STRAWMAN with less than that and so therefore there will be no outstanding amount. So I would say attributing £1,000,000 would be counter-productive wouldn’t you? Regards, Matt.
Am I correct in thinking that any tax returns submitted now will have to be completed on line? In previous years I have employed an accountant, but not this year. There appear to be several ways to handle the income tax situation, and I am still considering the best way forward for me, as we all are. It is also easier if you are self-employed. Those on PAYE won’t have as many options, I don’t think.
Hello David and all,
I have read your affidavit toolbox with interest – it all seems very sound and well thought out. I think its a good idea to state our intentions to the CEO (Gordon), since the power of Royal Assent or any interference from Her Maj seems to have no signficance these days – despite her Oaths, etc. In any case, she is in collusion, so better to do both affidavits to be sure?
I was just wondering about the ‘Enticement to Slavery’ bit. Can anyone point me to a reference that this is valid in UK? I can only find USA references. Is it Admiralty Law? Is there anything that says ‘E2S’ actually breaches Common Law?
I think we have to be wary about taking too much material from stateside – without adapting it to our own Laws/ customs.
Many thanks – keep fighting the good fight,
Peace, Love and Respect,
Faddius.
Dodgster1.
Any chance you could give me some info of how you have used Affidavits against csa/cmec?
Thanks
I would say that any country with a Central Bank strictly operates according to the UCC. Any country who does not allow the private run for profit Rothschild Central Bank in their country are being bombed or taken over right now.
With regards to Financial Penalisation of any corporate kind – They cannot take a penny from you unless you agree to it. You HAVE to admit or consent or agree that their imaginary fine actually exists in the first place, after all it is merely a legal fiction, it has no substance whatsoever until you agree that it does.
In the PCN process seems to be aimed towards notices that have been sent to Persons.
This is not the case if the Notice is stuck to the windscreen of the car in the form of one of those lovely yellow water tight envelopes.
What do I do this this case? Maybe it has alread been mentioned.
Jamie.
hello jamie – you wait for a notice to come through your door. there is another method ive heard of but not tested myself is that if you send back anything within 3 days, it becomes void.
Hi, just a quick question or three because I have received 5 parking tickets in the past few weeks for parking outside my home…
excellent hey!
I havent responded to any notice to owner yet, some of them were sent ages ago… I am almost ready to respond by stating along the lines of…
Thank you for your notices received today… list reference numbers… (NONE were sent RECORDED or given by hand so technically I received them all today?) follow the CONDITIONAL ACCEPTANCE stance and suggest that I will accept their contract according to my simple terms and conditions.
Basically I will accept their notices and process them for payment, but I charge £500 per notice… all payments must be directed to myself? or my strawman? any late payments will incur heavy penalty fees payable immediately of course… Can I accept ANY kind of response or reply as said corporations EXPLICIT consent to undertake this agreement with myself or my person???
I have tried this before and scared a few companies so what do you guys think?? eager to hear your comments, thank you.
Yeh, the No Contract Return to Sender system. You put it back in the envelope, put a sticker over the address window and write “No Contract Return to Sender” on it.
I have already done that with a speeding PCN but didn’t think of the ones that they don’t post out.
I think I will just put it in an envelope and post it to the address on the paperwork with the words “No Contract” on the PCN.
I am trying to determine if members of my family can be used as signaturies on an Affadavit? Wife, brother, father etc. Anyone have any ideas?
Many thanks
sounds like you’re moving outside the boundaries of our shared experience – please let us know if it goes well mate.
Hi
(My story: In Berkshire, England, I parked in the same place I have for years each Saturday afternoon and when I noticed the ticket on my windscreen I saw that a sign had been put up which was not there the week before!)
I thought Rob’s post re: refused for cause did apply to penalty charge notices stuck to the windscreen of a car? Jamie’s post seems to say it doesn’t but Rob’s does.
Does Rob’s advice to write ‘r4c, without dishonour, without prejudice, without recourse’ onto the pcn work if it was affixed to my windscreen (as opposed to posted to me)?
Also, assuming it does, how quickly do they have to follow up with a Notice to Owner?
If you want to pay the PCN I take it that they would not accept the money without you filling in the paperwork? What if you want to pay without filling it in stating that you are not prepared to incrimnate yourself then when refused, send in an Affidavit saying that you tried to pay but they would not accept it therefore there must not be any outstanding fine?
I followed Rob’s advice and wrote on the pcn (both sides) in red capital letters:
REFUSED FOR CAUSE
WITHOUT DISHONOUR
WITHOUT PREJUDICE
WITHOUT RECOURSE
and I also did this:
* Return immediately (within 72 hrs) – don’t forget
* Put the R4C wording on the front and back of all pages of the correspondence received
* Keep a copy for your records
* Send the original back recorded delivery
I have never made a payment to the council in question before and I have no other tickets outstanding.
They have sent me a Notice to Owner.
I intend to repeat the process .
Does anyone have any comments about this? Thanks and I understand that any comments you make mean no responsibility on your part – I take responsibility for my own actions.
Hi All,
I was wondering what the options are for a person in my situation:
I have 7 PCNs dating back to 2008 all for parking outside my house without a residents permit (as it had expired and I hadn’t got around to renewing it). All 7 PCNs are now with the Bailiff and I get letter not addressed to me but in an unmarked envelope demanding £2800 and stating that it is a pre-removal notice.
I have not responded to it or the council, but I had paid these bailiff in the past once to get my car back as they had towed it to the pound.
From what I have read it seems that unpaid PCNs do not go towards any credit rating matters so I have been comfortable ignoring the demands and I don’t have that car any more and no plans to get one any time soon.
What happens now? Do the bailiffs keep chasing it forever? can I serve them with R4C?
Thanks in advance
chettiyar – your question is too difficult to answer, you need to re-write it and send again.
Sorry if it wasn’t that clear:
I have 7 PCNs all of which have a Warrant of execution issued and are with the bailiffs. I have got pre-removal notices which are addressed to me, but in an unmarked envelope. I have so far not contacted the council or the bailiff in response to these. On the back of the notice, the PCN and their numbers are listed with charges next to each of them and totals £2800 approx £400 for each PCN.
The PCNs are a result of me parking outside my house with an expired resident parking permit.
I did want to point out that in the past I had paid these bailiff to get my car back for a PCN which is unrelated to any of the 7 PCNs I have mentioned.
I wanted to know what my options are now? Can i let it ride untill the Baliff pass it back to the council and hopefully their charges drop off? R4C?
Hope that makes sense.
Thanks in Advance.
Hi All,
Does Rob’s post re: refused for cause apply to penalty charge notices stuck to the windscreen of a car? Jamie’s post seems to say it doesn’t but Rob’s does.
Does anyone know if Rob’s advice to write ‘r4c, without dishonour, without prejudice, without recourse’ onto the pcn works if it was affixed to my windscreen?
Thanks.
Wow… lots of help here from the “experts”.
Why do I have to contract with entities of a fictitious nature whatsoever?
Why does ignoring something of no substance cause me undue grief?
IF I as a sovereign do not have to contract by choice, why do I still have to contract to save myself from the consequences of ignoring their fictions?
What I suggested previously, i.e. conditional acceptance and charging “admin fee’s for processing their fictions seems like a suitable course of action given the circumstances?
How many times have you heard companies/corporations mention the need to charge admin fees for doing the job they are already being paid to do?
Surely there is someone educated enough on this forum to offer advice and guidance with regard to my truth which is, I accept your bs but I charge for the inconvenience of it all.
Anyone??
Or have I just not understood what I am supposed to be understanding?
Thank you in advance for your kind and prompt attention to this matter, I appreciate any and all help.
Howard
It seems after using the “No Contract – Return to Sender” process, you get a summons after about 4-5 months of returning the notices. If you use the same process with that, you get a letter from the DVLA saying you have been convicted and you must return your licence otherwise your driving privilages will be withdrawn. So what happens next if you use the same process? What can they do, if everyone does this? We cant all go to jail for sticking up for our rights and standing up to tyranny can they?
jacob – it depends how determined you are with it all. but there is some truth in that when you send it back within 3 days it is difficult to process for them. you’re right, once enough people do it then we should see more victories.
In reply to Jacob’s message, I sent my notice to provide drivers details back & heard nothing back for 3 months when a Police man turned up at the door and gave my mum a letter which was the original notice for drivers details (dated the original date). The envelope did not have a return address (oh how convenient).
I typed up a notice of conditional acceptance asking for the corpus delicti, to prove that I am a member of society & a person.
hi guys.
great site, not sure if i have discovered it too late for me or not. i have already appealed a PCN, and been refused. it has come back at £120 saying that i did not appeal in time. this is rubbish. but what i want to know is, can i still do as you suggest with the affidavit or R4C? regards ian
I have won a PCN in the past “contervention code 83″ a few weeks ago we recieved another parking ticket, no problem I thought, I’ll just type up the old letter and send it off recorded. But looking on the new parking ticket they’ve issued I have to post it to a PO Box address!! Sneaky!! So I can’t send it recorded delivery… Any answers on how to deal with this slight problem?
I’m loving this. Hahaha.
I’m type of guy, will go all the way and not let fear get me. Even if they write “right eviction, 5,000 pay next time dude.”
I can see where most may do a bit and suddenly get fear in mind. That’s all they try and get people with. Going to read more of your articles. They brill!
I got a PCN from a mob called “Parking Enforcement” for overstaying in a Coop carpark by 20 minutes one evening. These guys are a scam. The notice is unenforcable for several reasons. 1. No contract as discussed elsewhere, 2. The PCN was sent to the Owner and not the driver (you are under no obligation to state who was driving. The letters then came at roughly monthly intervals, the fine increased and dire warnings of the effect on my credit rating were included.
I ignored all correspondence from them and from their “collection agency” (probably the next desk along in the office).
Note that noone can obtain a county court judgement against you without you being summonsed to answer to the court and only a CCJ can effect your credit rating.
After about 4 months they gave up. To my certain knowledge they have never taken anyone to court as they know they cannot win.
Just type “Parkiing Enforcement” into Google – there are hundreds of interesting threads
Cheers
Johno
Hi guys, can anyone tell me, if during the lien proccess we use witnesses throughout, then at the end get the default notarised, or a final affidavit of truth notarised, according to english law an affidavit isnt really classed as such until witnessed by a notary, solicitor, etc, so does that mean that at the time I serve the lien with witnesses that the other party does not really have a duty to respond because its not considered a affidavit beacause it has not got a notary, etc witnessing it?
if someone could help would be very much appreciated
Matty
Hey guys
i got a parking ticket stuck to my windscreen the other day by dudley council because my front end was over the parking line. I found this website, because its clearly a parking ticket for the sake of handing out a parking ticket.
Just a couple of questions so its clear
1. due to the ticket being stuck to my windscreen i dont need to send a notice but instead just the affidavit, is that correct
2. it needs to be signed by two people who arent family, is that correct
3. if i hand deliver the document, is there something i need to have to verify i hand delivered it (like the proof of mailing document if i posted)
Thanks a lot guys
Zack